How to Deal with Software Complexity • Gail Murphy & Charles Humble • GOTO 2024

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Dr. Gail Murphy - Vice-President Research & Innovation & Professor of Computer Science at The University of British Columbia
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

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DESCRIPTION
Charles Humble interviews Dr. Gail Murphy about the challenges in software engineering today. They discuss how productivity isn’t just about lines of code but is more about focus and minimizing task-switching.

Gail also talks about the difficulty of managing the rapid evolution of system architectures, stressing the need for regular restructuring and refactoring to avoid issues like increased coupling and decreased performance. The conversation moves to open-source development, where Gail highlights how using open-source components can create complex, brittle dependencies, and the need for better communication within these ecosystems.

They wrap up by discussing the evolving role of technical leadership in navigating these challenges. [...]

TIMECODES
00:00 Intro
01:40 Defining developer productivity
07:26 Software architecture’s role in developer productivity
14:25 Complexity challenges in modern systems
19:12 Open source ecosystem
25:40 Research opportunities in open source
30:35 Reflections on technical leadership
33:32 Outro

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